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Developer(s) | Sony |
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Final release | |
Preview release | 5.2 / 2009 (Japan only) |
Operating system | Windows |
Type | Music player |
License | Freeware |
Website | None (product unavailable) |
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SonicStage is the name for Sony software that is used for managing portable devices when they are plugged into a computer running Microsoft Windows. It comprises a music player and library manager, similar to iTunes, Windows Media Player and RealPlayer. It is used to manage the library of ATRAC OMG/OMA and MP3 recordings on a PC. It was first used in VAIO PCs put on the Japanese market in October 2001, and superseded OpenMG Jukebox. Version 2 was found on 2004 model products, and Version 3 on 2005 model products (Sony introduced native MP3 support on its music players in 2005).
The Sony Connect service was formerly used to purchase recordings online, and could be accessed from within the SonicStage program. However, Sony announced that on the 31 March 2008, its CONNECT download site would be going offline, therefore affecting SonicStage users.
However, in late 2008, Sony launched a new online music store called 'bandit.fm' on a trial basis for a small number of markets. It was expected that Sony would launch bandit.fm globally, however Sony never did this and closed the store in 2016.[1] Japan exclusively uses the mora service.
- 1Features
- 2History
- 4Alternatives
Features[edit]
Copying and usage restriction[edit]
SonicStage is closely tied to a requirement that the program guard against copyright infractions. Sony music players have a write-only design. Somewhat similar to an Apple iPod, it is not generally possible to move tracks from the music player to the PC hard drive, and thereby from one music player to another. Some earlier models (such as some of the Net-MD line) could not even transfer voice recordings made by the user (with the player's microphone input) to their PC.
Copy restriction is provided not by any one feature, but by a group of design features and software limitations. The main features being:
- The software strictly enforces digital rights management through its use of OpenMG. SonicStage ties the DRM license of each track to the hardware of the computer from which it has been transferred. SonicStage will not allow transfer of tracks from the player to another computer. It is possible, however, to backup 'My Library' and import it into another installation of SonicStage on a different computer.
- Music files have to be 'wrapped' by Sony software in order to be played on a Sony music player. Sony has not introduced drag and drop support for music files. Although it is possible to load files directly onto a Sony player without using SonicStage, it is not possible to play music files loaded this way. Neither is it possible in most cases to transfer music files back to a PC. (all versions prior to 3.4)
- The program does not generally convert OMG/OMA files to MP3 or WAV.
- The program only supports OMG format, not MP3. The program converts any audio files imported into it into OMG format, including audio files that are not legally downloaded, or illegally copied music.
- The program lacks a true import album feature for WAV and MP3 files. The program imports tracks as is. MP3 and WAV files can not generally be used. Imported files cannot be grouped into an album with artist, title and tracknumber fields assigned at the time of import. This has to be done before or after import.
- When WAV tracks are imported, they remain linked to their WAV source file and the track can only be edited for as long as the WAV source file remains on the computer. This makes it difficult to use SonicStage to edit CDs that have been ripped with another program.
As of version 3.4, an intermediate update mostly for Hi-MD users, some of the above restrictions have been relaxed. SonicStage 3.4 allows tracks recorded via digital/analogue inputs on Hi-MD devices to be transferred back in WAV format. Also, files in Sony's proprietary ATRAC format can now be converted to WAV.
MP3 support[edit]
Support for MP3 files in both SonicStage and 2005 model devices is problematic. A 2005 model device may not be able to play some tracks. For example, it may not be able to play low bit rate MP3 tracks, (the ones that may be produced by an Internet radio station, or in a podcast).
SonicStage will play ATRAC3 files directly from a digital music device when the latter is connected to the computer and detected by the software. SonicStage 3 does not play DRM-wrapped MP3 files directly from the device.Many bugs, however, are corrected and addressed.
History[edit]
Version 1[edit]
Version 1.5 adds the native support for ATRAC3plus[2] and Windows Media Audio (WMA). And addition, MP3 encoding plug-in was sold on Sony's on-line stores (SonyStyle Japan: ¥1,590[3]), for their Palm device: CLIÉ. But those encoding function for WMA/MP3 was removed in SonicStage Version 2.0 (SS2.0 supports only the decoding function).
Version 2[edit]
This is the last version of SonicStage before native MP3 devices were introduced by Sony.MP3 is supported by converting the mp3 file to ATRAC format and downloading that file to the device.
The v2 library manager is 'benign' in that it sits on top of what is already on the hard drive, and doesn't change what is already there (It will change a file name if the user has configured it as such.) Users can tell it an album exists in a directory, and import that group of files as an album without having the program change the header information in the tracks.
Version 3[edit]
Version 3 uses the header information in the tracks to get album, artist and track name information.The tracks are placed in the database according to what is in the tracks. When the header fields in a track are blank, the program imports the track into the unnamed album (No name, no artist, no album). As a consequence, when importing tracks, many albums are placed into the album called 'Unnamed'.
Tracks under digital rights management cannot be changed, and neither can tracks with a missing source link.
As noted above, Version 3 lacks an 'Import Album' feature. SonicStage v3 classifies tracks according to the album-related information present in their headers.
2 GB memory sticks are not supported.
Sony have added the option to drop DRM on ripped files in SonicStage v3.3.
SonicStage 3.4 includes an option to de-DRM an entire library (the larger it is, the longer it takes) allowing unlimited transfer and playback on PCs. Users can share non-DRM files with other people.
The option to de-DRM files does not work on unplayable OMA files.
SonicStage 3.4 does operate on Windows Vista after some manual driver installations.
Version 4 (SonicStage CP)[edit]
Adds the ability to import AACLC, as well as HE-AAC.
The main downside is that a number of features, such as the ability to recover from corrupt track lists, are still missing. Restrictions on what non administrator users could do were due to restrictions imposed by Windows XP and earlier. These restrictions are not present with Windows Vista and later.
Version 4.3 (SonicStage CP) adds Windows Vista compatibility (Vista 64-bit and Windows 7 64-bit are not officially supported but Sonicstage will run, though there are no drivers for the hardware). As of October 2008, this is the latest version of the English (and other non-Japanese language) SonicStage. From March 29, 2013 onwards this version is no longer available for download from Sony website.[4]
Version 4.4, released on January 10, 2008[5] (only in Japan), added HE-AAC transfer function for new walkmans.
Version 5 (SonicStage V)[edit]
SonicStage V is the latest version of the Japanese SonicStage, and features a new user interface like SonicStage for LISMO. Version 5.0 released on October 9, 2008 in Japan.[6][7] On 9 Feb 2009, version 5.1 was released.
SonicStage V does not work with the Hi-MD/Net MD Walkmans, MP3-CD/ATRAC-CD players (such as CD Walkmans) and other old devices.[8]
SonicStage for LISMO[edit]
SonicStage for LISMO is a stripped-down version of Japanese SonicStage CP, and is a part of the 'LISMO Port' suite. Version 1.0 was released on February 1, 2008. SonicStage for LISMO developed for a new ATRAC service (LISMOオーディオ機器連携) of LISMO, the online music store provided by a Japanese mobile phone operator KDDI (au). There are some useful functions to using LISMO, but little value for non-LISMO users. The playable codecs are same as SonicStage Version 4.x, but encoding functions are only available for the ATRAC codecs.
As of October 2008, 16 au phones (manufactured by Casio Hitachi Mobile Communications, Kyocera, Sanyo, Sharp, Sony Ericsson and Toshiba) support LISMO's ATRAC service.[9]
Alternatives[edit]
MP3 File Manager[edit]
Sony offers the MP3 File Manager for Network Walkmans as a very limited alternative to SonicStage. It only provides a simple drag-and-drop interface and is lacking many of the newer, more advanced features of SonicStage (such as the ability to transfer files back to the computer).
The application is intended to be installed on the Network Walkman itself.Although it can be run directly on the device, it is not truly a portable application because it requires that the driver[10] be installed on the computer.
The most recent version (2.0) can be downloaded from here[11] or here.[12] There is also an older version (1.2) for older Network Walkmans available here.[13]
VAIO Music Transfer[edit]
As mentioned in this forum,[14] the VAIO Music Transfer software allows files to be dragged and dropped onto the player. It may still require SonicStage to be installed. It works with the NW-A700-series, NW-E00XF-series players as well as the NW-HD1 and NW-HD3.
MP3 Conversion Tool[edit]
Sony released an MP3 Conversion Tool in 2007. The MP3 Conversion Tool can be used to convert non-DRM protected ATRAC® format audio files stored in your computer to MP3 format audio files. To run the MP3 Conversion Tool, the OpenMG Secure Module is required (included with SonicStage). The tool can be downloaded from Sony's eSupport page, here.[15]
Third-party alternatives[edit]
- voidMP3FM file manager is free, and supports some features that the official MP3FM does not (e.g. ability to transfer files back to the computer). voidMP3FM currently works with NW-E002, NW-E003, NW-E005, NW-A608, and (unofficially) NW-E015F, allows transfer of tracks back to HD, and the compatibility is improved in each version (last release was 6 October 2006). It also works under WINE in Linux.[16]
- JSymphonic is a piece of open-sourceJava software that works on Linux, Microsoft Windows and Mac OS X and can transfer MP3s to and from the Sony NW-E00x series and HDD NW-A series players. It is also a continuation of the NW-E00x Mp3 File Manager project.
- Grab Your Music (GYM) software allows to transfer (upload) audio files back to the computer from the Walkman.
- ML Sony is a plugin for the popular multimedia player Winamp. It integrates with Winamp's Library and allows the user to transfer MP3s between the PC and the Sony Walkman. It does not require SonicStage to be installed. The official discussion thread about it seems to be offline.[17]
MiniDisc[edit]
For MiniDisc Walkman, the linux-minidisc project is working continuously to develop a free transfer software for all HiMD- and NetMD-Walkman. The software features a library libhimd for accessing HiMD-devices and a Qt-based GUI (QHiMDTransfer) which both can be ported to many platforms, current versions are available for Linux, Windows and Macintosh computers. Currently, upload (i.e. transfer from the Walkman to the PC) of MP3s and PCM/ATRAC3/ATRAC3+-recordings (all HiMD Walkman) is possible, more functionality (downloads to the device, deleting, renaming tracks etc.) is being worked on. NetMD is supported as well (through a collection of Python scripts) in the form of downloads (all NetMD) and uploads (MZ-RH1 only). Especially the sophisticated debugging and reverse-engineering protection of OpenMG/AVLib made development tedious but linux-minidisc is the only software to provide this functionality to date. The project homepage can be found here.[18]
See also[edit]
References[edit]
- ^web.archive.orghttps://web.archive.org/web/20161220022819/http://www.bandit.fm/. Retrieved 2019-03-24.Missing or empty
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(help) - ^Ken Fujimoto (2002-12-16). 'Digital Audio Laboratory' (in Japanese). Impress AV Watch. Archived from the original on 2008-04-12. Retrieved 2008-03-14.
- ^'ソニースタイル、SonicStage用のMP3プラグインを販売開始' (in Japanese). Impress AV Watch. 2002-12-05. Archived from the original on 2005-04-12. Retrieved 2008-03-14.
- ^http://www.sony-asia.com/support/announcement/524893
- ^'「SonicStage CP (SonicStage Ver.4.4) ダウンロードサービス」のご案内' (in Japanese). Sony Marketing (Japan). 2008-01-10. Retrieved 2008-03-14.
- ^'ソニー、ウォークマン用転送ソフト「SonicStage V」' (in Japanese). Impress AV Watch. 2008-10-09. Retrieved 2008-10-17.
- ^Christopher MacManus (2008-10-10). 'Sony Japan Releases SonicStage V (aka SonicStage 5)'. Sony Insider. Retrieved 2008-10-17.
- ^'SonicStage V 対応機器情報' (in Japanese). Sony Marketing (Japan). 2008-10-09. Retrieved 2008-10-17.
- ^'「LISMO「オーディオ機器連携」」対応機種' (in Japanese). KDDI. Retrieved 2008-10-17.
- ^Sony Electronics, Inc. 'Sony eSupport - NW-E405 - Drivers & Software'. Esupport.sony.com. Retrieved 2012-09-01.
- ^'Welcome : Support for Sony'. Sonydigital-link.com. Retrieved 2012-09-01.
- ^Sony Electronics, Inc. 'Sony eSupport - NW-E405 - Drivers & Software'. Esupport.sony.com. Retrieved 2012-09-01.
- ^'Welcome : Support for Sony'. Sonydigital-link.com. Retrieved 2012-09-01.
- ^'post'. Ipastudio.com. Archived from the original on April 24, 2008. Retrieved 2012-09-01.
- ^'Sony eSupport - Electronics - Drivers & Software'. esupport.sony.com. Retrieved 2015-01-14.
- ^http://www.atraclife.com/forums/index.php?showforum=25
- ^http://www.atraclife.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1528
- ^'start [linux-minidisc]'. Wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de. Retrieved 2012-09-01.
External links[edit]
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Encyclopedia article or review?[edit]
This article reads like a (quite harsh) magazine review of the software, and it definitely is not NPOV.
I'll sit down with my Vaio notebook this weekend and explore SonicStage to get a better feel for the program and see if this can be cleaned up. LarryMac 19:11, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
What a biased article[edit]
this software is the worst program ever, it wasn't even created by sony, it was created by a company called sonic. the software is unbelievably terrible, from messing your mp3's to very high cpu usage.
Alternatives for Sonicstage[edit]
I shurly hope there will be more alternatives soon for this crappy software.Sony released a somewhat better tool: MP3 File Manager Version 2.0 for Network WalkmanThis software is 'installed' on the device itself and lets you update the carried music library from more than one computer, something that is forbidden with the Sonicstage software.( unless re-initializing the device every time you use a new Sonicstage installation is an option for you )The tool lacks a lot of features, but being a winamp user, I do not care.
I would like to ask the open source programmers to see if the device format can be de-coded and recoded in f.i. winamp modules.
Marcel Heijkoop
Does anyone know if the NW-E00x Walkmans work with MP3 File Manager?-A
Pathetic Sonicstage[edit]
Although this artical reads like a harsh review, it is actually very accurate. The inability of the software to encode in mp3 format means that many sensible users (anticipating future non-sony products) will want to encode using itunes or WMP, and then import their library into the Sonicstage software to transfer the music to their sony device. Otherwise they will have to encode in proprietary ATRAC format, which is not supported by the majority of products.
However, Sonicstage has a critical flaw which makes it unable to properly fulfill the role of a even a simple shell product which imports the list of mp3s on your computer and transfers desired songs to your device: when importing songs, the software assumes that songs with the *same* album title but different artists are indeed different albums. So if artist X collaborates with Y on a song, the songs will appear as different albums. And you must manually tell sonic stage, track by track (!!) that each song is in fact part of the same album. And of course, the order of songs is jumbled and must next be corrected.
A woefully inadequate and poorly executed product! If I had known, I would have voted with my pocketbook by refusing to buy a Sony network walkman.abc
Sonicstage alternatiuve article covering gym the winamp plugine.. MP3FM and the GPL Mp3FM 'implementation' needs to bew written.. check atrac life for more details .. alterion
Wikipedia is not a reviews site[edit]
Whether it is 'accurate' or not is immaterial - Wikipedia articles are supposed to represent a Neutral Point of View and the article doesn't include any balanced information or the positive aspects of SonicStage's sound format (such as the good sound quality in comparison to an equivalent-bitrate MP3)
However, as with most other articles, a criticism section may be appropriate. Leaving out the very numerous and nearly unanimously agreed upon criticisms would be to limit the accuracy of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.42.112 (talk) 03:50, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Definetly a review[edit]
While the article does contain a very well thought out biased review of the software, an acceptable article would only explain the use of the software, and what it's limited functions are. It should not discuss what the software's abitlites aren't, or suggest changes to make it better.
the correct way to do it, imo, would be to have factual and neutral page with a 'criticisms' section at the end --Neon white 16:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
About security flaws on SonicStage[edit]
Sony has a nice line of portable music players. From its first tape walkmans to the latest flash memory mp3 players. However, in a world where computer useage is turning into something almost ubuquitous, they have decided to create a player that will only run in Windows, and, not only that, they decided to impose the use of _their_ software of choice, instead of the _users_ software of choice, Sonic Stage.
However, the point is not on the choice of software, instead, on the security flaws created by the SonicStage player. In the connected context that we are living into, security is turning into a big concern, that can be seen on the amount of efforts applied to it. Take for instance the new Windows version, Vista, that implements a new feature called UAP - User Account Protection, that, simply put, enforces the useage of a restricted access rights for daily useage and administrator access rights only for out of ordinary tasks.
So, what is the problem? Simply put, Sony's SonicStage won't allow you to run the software as a restricted user. Only with super-user privileges. Altough not a flaw as serious as Sony's latest approach to DRM, the installation of rootkits through music cd's, but a serious flaw none the less, that indulges most users to use their software as an administrator, what definitely is not a reasonable approach. Taken that the 'Least Privilege Principle' is well know in computer security, where the user is to be given the required access rights to be able to do his tasks, no more, no less.
- Version 4.3 runs under a limited user account with no problem. 109.153.242.10 (talk) 17:53, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
No such thing as neutrality[edit]
As much as Wikipedia is supposed to present to an objective view, what positive comments can you give about this software? It is utterly dire. Wikipedia is supposed to present the truth (uncertain as this may be) and in my opinion the article is pretty sound. It could have been a lot more negative.
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Made some revisions.[edit]
I made some revisions and got rid of some of the biased/non-neutral writings. 06 January 2006.
Impossible task.[edit]
While some here complain of the lack of positive coments about SonicStage, they havent stoped to consider that the cause of such an absence, is the simple fact that there IS NO positive aspect of this terrible software. It is so terrible that the only way you could say something good of SonicStage is by telling untruths. I have been a keen user of the MiniDisc-format and tried to convert friends to it and they were detered by SS. The only reason anybody would use this software is the lack of any alternative, when you have minidiscs. An alternative to use when dealing with HardDisc based MP3 players is readily available: the hardware of just about ANY other vendor.
This is a very exasperating piece of software.
Removed NPOV (Jan 8th, 2006)[edit]
The NPOV has been attached to the article for 6 months, and the article is considerably different than the article to which the NPOV was attached.
Having a NPOV attached to the article is very distracting. New readers assume that the NPOV was attached to the current article, and have tried to 'improve' the article by removing comments that may be construed as being biased against Sony.
Without the distraction of the NPOV, people may pay more attention to the actual quality of the article, and feel more free to add to its content, whatever form that may take.
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PSP and omg[edit]
Loads of music, mangled by OMG and maybe, just maybe, play on PSP. No joy.
42 hours lost? Not relevant[edit]
The guy who keeps reposting his 42 hours of lost information site is very much biased and doing self-promotion for his own needs. He should create an article about his website instead.
- Yes, I am very biased -- at least, I am as biased as a Sony employee who is promoting Sonicstage -- so why should I be any different? Is there one rule for Sony marketers and another for frustrated customers?
- I have created a website about it -- it is very relevant to a Sonicstage wiki -- therefore, I'll keep on putting it back.
The web site maintainer is an idiot. He keeps making the assumption that I'm a Sony employee, which is incorrect. Running a simple nslookup would indicate that I post from a university computer. (For the record, I work exclusively for a university and not in a field relating to musical equipment or musical software.)
- The reason I think you are a Sony employee is that you are 1) so persistent in your criticism when you shouldn't really care all that much, and 2) you are constantly insulting me. Nearly every time you post/e-mail on this subject, you refer to me as an idiot, or worse. So what is your problem? You are either 1) a Sony employee or connected to Sony somehow, 2) you have an ideological objection to consumer complaints, 3) you're just a busy body who enjoys sticking his nose into places it's not welcome. Which is it?
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Admittedly, that doesn't prove a thing but it's not proof that I work for Sony either. He even ignored my criticisms of Sony when I posted to his site which would indicate that I have a more open mind than him.Wikipedia is not a Sonicstage Wiki.
- I suggest you READ my site. Your criticism are covered on the home page and on the background page. I believe your criticisms are invalid, which is my right to do so.
Yes, but information about SonicStage being unreliable would be relevant (this is the SonicStage article after all) if it wasn't original research. Cynical 14:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I did read it. I'm sure everyone thinks you're a moron for deleting your master copies and not transferring the recordings to plain WAV files.
- Again you have to call me a moron!!! What is it with you?
- What master copies are you talking about? The ones on the disc itself? If so, sorry but older versions of SS would only transfer recordings from discs ONCE, so it is utterly irrelevant to complain that I deleted the disc copies.
- Basically, I think you are being nasty and pointless. If you don't agree with my dispute, that is your problem, not mine. I find your attitude to be disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself for carrying on like this over something in which you are not involved, doesn't affect you whatsoever, and you cannot influence.
42 hours lost? Very relevant![edit]
I find the 42hours.org very informative. I have had similar difficulties with SonicStage and so have others.
- I am wondering where the 42 hours deleter is coming from. Perhaps he could be more explicit about his opinions. There is, for me, an interesting issue here as to what 'knowledge' is. The person who created the 42 hours site 'knows' something about SonicStage in a way that the person who keeps deleting the reference to that site does not. If the deleter keeps deleting the reference because of preconceived opinions as to what wikipedia should or should not contain, or what the 42 hours creator 'should' know, then I have my doubts as to whether the deletion is justified. If the site creator 'should' know something, but doesn't, then it seems to me that such knowledge is precisely what 'should' be incorporated in wikipedia. What's the point of the article if not to provide _useful_ ( as opposed to theoretical and factual) information? I very much support the reference to the 42 hours site.
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The 42-hours website saved me from disaster; and just in time too.To me, it was by far the most relevant piece of information I found about sonicstage on the web.I totally agree with your questioning the motives of the person who deleted the reference.
Though the main article is not bad at all, I think the use of the MD as a live sound recording device is underexposed. Contrary to most people, who have a choice of comparable programs, the people who record with an MD are fully dependent on Sonic Stage. And many will, like, me, have wrestled with SS and the 'wav-conversion-tool' which, for instance, would not install under SS v. 2 since it needed 'version 1 or higher' etc.etc.hm
Comments on Version 4 Changes. Do they belong, or not?[edit]
I noticed that someone deleted some comments about Version 4. There may be some useable stuff in what was deleted:
- Sonic Stage CP is an improvement over the previous version, though in look and feel it is very similar to version 3. One major addition is the ability to import AAC music files (used by Apple for the Ipod) with extensions *.3gp, *.mp4, *.m4a as well as continued wav, mp3, and wma support. The program is a bit trick to use, with some non-obvious learning curve issues. The power to sort and edit groups of files doesn't become apparent until you set it to show all tracks. Then clicking on any headers will sort and allow you to modify the properties of groups of tracks (for example marking the tracks in a compilation album so the different artists don't show them as different albums) or deleting a group of files you've manually moved on your hard drive.
- The gracenote cddb music database worked oddly when importing wav files, but seemed to work well if your converting your cd library to one of Sony's ATRAC format. The ATRACPlus LossLess is well supported, and you can go through the awkward process of converting to wav and mp3 if necessary. - - Unless you are using a Sony portable digital walkman, I don't see why you would use SonicStage. If you have one, then this version is actually useable if still limited compared to many other systems (such as Yahoo's new music engine). Unfortunately, converting files back and forth loses most of the album and track data, and it is an extra step that you have to go through wav to convert anything.
- The databases are using microsoft's jet database package, and can back up and restore to another computer if needed. That's handy, but once again, using some kind of file that other programs could read (such as id3 tags or Yahoo's xml based system) would be a real plus. If the program crashes, or otherwise fails to work properly (I had some problems with it accessing cd-rom and dvd drives on two computers) theres doesn't seem to be any way to report the error to Sony.
- There is some useful information in there, but it needs to be written in a more appropriate style. It's full of opinion and original research. --LarryMac 14:34, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Choice of Bitrate[edit]
The edit of July 9th changed this section, I believe incorrectly.The suggested text was:
- As a simple rule of thumb: ATRAC3Plus at 128 kbit/s gives CD quality. ATRAC3Plus at 96 gives near CD quality. ATRAC3Plus at 64 kbit/s gives generally acceptable quality. ATRAC3Plus at 48 kbit/s gives better than FM quality. For more information see [ATRAC]].
Unfortunately Atrac doesn't give CD quality at 128 kbs - that's why Sony provides an ATRAC bit rate of 256kbs. Not even Sony are claiming CD quality at 128kbs. I also believe this text overrates the quality of the sound compared to FM - a lot.
Is there any evidence to support these changes? mtj 9th July 2006
That's no excuse to blank the section.B|Cube 21:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
NPOV?[edit]
Reading this article on 7/19/06, it seems as though, in the interest of maintaining a NPOV, the article has been stripped of nearly all evidence of criticism of the software. Perhaps the article is in need of a criticisms/controversy section, so that the various criticisms of the software are at least documented on this page. It would still be neutral to at least state that these criticisms exist. It is equally non-neutral to deny/ignore the software's infamy as it is to argue for it.
In regards to 42hours.org, perhaps this would be more relevant were it (42 hours) a website dedicated to documenting the list of criticisms of the software, rather than a blog of a single user's complaints. Maybe even the author of the website can agree that it would be more appropriate for an encyclopedia to list links to articles regarding the criticisms, (such as the engadget article listed in his links section) rather than to his personal blog.
ATRAC'S Quality ( was 'Final comment')[edit]
I know that the crash was introduced by some VBR mp3s, which is potentially a problem of mp3 codec that also inference many other jukebox like iTunes. However, partly of this problem is solved in latest version SonicStage 4 CP.
Frankly speaking, the SonicStage interface received a lot of good commends in Aisa Pacific market and meanwhile those users think iTunes is a crappie thing.
For ATRAC's quality, I can say I conducted a serious test with a top quality Krell audio system (which cost more than 20 thousand US dollars) against same record encoded with WMA9, iTune6 and FGH's mp3. I am pretty sure that a carefully encoded 64kbps ATRAC3plus is superiour over 128kbps mp3 and 96kbps WMA9. The only rival against ATARC3plus is HE-AAC, which I can't notice too much different between HE-AAC and ATRAC3plus when both are encoding at or beyond 96kbps.
To sum up, SonicStage is a good jukebox for people who owned a lot of CDs, and willing to copy them to their HDD one by one. Not those who just download mp3 from the web.
I think this commend will end the long waiting arguement on ATRAC's quality, as I don't believe too many people can afford a 20 thousand US dollars for an audio system for just a lossy audio codec testing.
External links[edit]
This might be a useful collection of apps to use as replacements, but Wikipedia is not the right place for this stuff. We should aim to be encyclopedic, which means that rather than including a bunch of research here we should describe the research of other credible sources. I'm planning on removing this section in future. Chris Cunningham (talk) 17:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- The first place I look for information is wikipedia, and that includes clues to alternative programs. A simple link to an alternative program is ok until someone writes an entire page. Jeremiahbell (talk) 06:12, 13 January 2008 (UTC)jeremiahbell
- Wikipedia is not a substitute for the Yellow Pages. There's surely an external site which points to these apps. Chris Cunningham (talk) 12:49, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with Jeremiahbell in that wikipedia is one of the first places I look for information, and it is actually how I 'did' find an alternative to the less than stellar SonicStage software. I see now that the links to those alternative programs has been removed, and I am hoping to find out if they can be reposted. I tried out all the alternative programs that were posted originally, and I have been sticking with the one program that has continued to be developed and supported and works very well with both older and newer Sony Walkman products. I believe there are quite a few people that would be very happy to be able to quickly and easily find out about the alternative software products that will work with their Sony Walkman products, and this wikipedia page was, could be and should be one of the sources of that information. I think the analogy of the 'yellow pages' is not appropriate as this page was the 'external site which points to the apps.' No sarcasm intended, I'm just pointing out that this page was exactly that page.--Borg2112 (talk) 04:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- If you're new to Wikipedia please familiarize yourself with our guidelines for external links. That's what we generally use to determine which links should belong in an article. Themfromspace (talk) 04:20, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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- Thank you for the link. I am new as that was my first-ever post, so I do appreciate your help.--Borg2112 (talk) 04:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
No longer needed[edit]
You can copy music to and from newer players without drivers or additional software (USB mass storage device class plug-and-play). SonicStage was the one reason I stayed away from Sony players before, but my new one plays nice with Ubuntu. --78.149.120.106 (talk) 23:21, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
So suddenly, old players become irrelevant? I for one still have nw-e003, and I think alternative software is important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.100.60 (talk) 16:57, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Agreed, I still have an MZ-N710 which doesn't support Mass Storage, only SS. At least SS works under XP in a VM with USB passthrough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.23.50.220 (talk) 02:53, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Criticism section[edit]
While I agree that this article shouldn't read like a bad magazine review, I think that there does at least need to be a 'Criticism' section in it, seeing as there is certainly plenty of it going around. Yes/no? Fairweather01 (talk) 03:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
about the flash memory in the walkman[edit]
i had formatted the device in the computer, now when i try to transfer songs from the software sonicstage it ask me to empty the harddisk of the device as well as initialise the harddisk now what should i do as the model no. is NW-E003F —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.70.78.12 (talk) 11:50, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
CP/4.3 no longer avialable[edit]
I've just added that SonicStage 4.3 is not avialable for download from the Sony site. It's the first ref I've added & don't know how to add any comments to it. The download page is still there. It has a Sony Asia address (http://www.sony-asia.com/support/download/60444). It's the only one I found when I looked for the download the other year, and is English. Even though Sony have localised sites (song.co.uk, sony-europe.com etc.) this appears to be The download page.Dannman (talk) 12:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Sony Sonicstage Software For Mac
- This is exactly why I intensely dislike software that is totally dependant on being downloaded from the internet. Should one ever need to rebuild a Windows system disc (a not unlikely requirement given its inherent instability), it becomes impossible to reinstall such software when this is necessary. It is (in my view) always a bad idea when you cannot download the software itself, but only download an installer which is still totally dependant on finding the software itself on the internet and thus remains totally dependant on the supplier maintaining its availabilty. 86.145.151.250 (talk) 16:41, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to disappoint you (or anyone else seeking Sonicstage 4.3), but all the linked site allows you to actually download is a message basically telling you, 'hard luck, Sonicstage ain't here any more'. 86.149.79.140 (talk) 16:29, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
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